Well I was finally able to see a predator up close this weekend. I was at Winchester Bay Oregon and saw quite a few. I have read a few of Robs posts on other sites and could not believe the predator would come close to my Raptor, let alone beat it. Finally a guy challenged me to a race, I beat him by about a 1/2 bike length after about a 200 yard run, but I was really surprised by the Predator, it took me off the line, and I did not pass until I was in 4th gear, even then the little bugger would not go away. My wife thinks she needs a sport quad now, I just might have to get her a Predator.