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Does anyone have pics or know of where to find some of a PRedator with an 18 inch tire????Im fixing to get new hubs and swithc to an 18 inch tire......if so, can you email methe pics please?Thanks ..TINA
 

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You can get the Titan Fast Trekker's in 18x11x10, you won't have to change the rims
 

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Thanks for the replies.....I should have been more specific I guess.Im getting an 18 inch turf tamer in case I flattrack(which I think I will) plus I like it as an overall tire also good here for our MX track.I have a set of fast trekkers on my Daughters min quad.they are awesome tires!!!! but if I go to a honda bolt pattern then we can swap out all the darm tires I have now. from my 400ex....
 

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Paul ,do you have any pis of your tires? I would like to seen one if you do.:) Tina
 

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i am just wondering and about to do the same things but i am getting the urf tamers what positive things are these small tires going to do for me
 

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Tina, I can get pics when I get back from work this friday and will post. I'm currently 800 or so miles away at a base camp.

Predator: it has been my experience that the 18x11x10's worked really really great on my 250r but they don't seem to work all that great on my predator. It hit the rev limiter way too fast. I have not tried them since I put the vortex cdi on but that should make a huge difference. Also it lowered the clearance considerably so watch out on mx tracks with big berms and lots of sand. I used itp mx holeshots and they are really sticky and hoop up great. I did a side by side comparison on 3 different mx tracks and decided that the smaller rims were not buying me anything and were costing me a bunch on the mid and top end. But that was all before the new cdi.

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Paul, thanks for the tip.......BTW, do you ever race with a Guy named Jim on a Cdale speed up there?He told me about someone who had a Predator and a Vortex, just wondering if it was you......So overall, which tire is the bestfor MX? Not liking the stockers very much.:( Im actually wanting to lower for flattrack so the turf tamers should be really good,but during off season Ill need a dif set to run.Maybe Hoelshots? Front and rears?Or a Fast Trekker front?Im looking for this set up on my 400ex as well.........Pics would be good when you get teh time PAul.no hurry....
 

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Yep thats me. I think Jim is looking to get rid of the Cdale and pick up something fancy from the lower 48. I really like the itp holeshot mx over the maxxis razors or the turf tamers. I have tried them all in both stock size and 18x11x10. The razors are good and the turf tamers are avg. I did not really like them because they didn't hook up all that well (either with all the lugs intact or with a "gary denton mx" tread pattern. The holeshots on the other hand hooked up really well in all situations. Fast trekkers are a hard rubber compound and I thought they were only avg. For non mx riding I would choose the holeshot xc's which are a little harder rubber (but still kinda soft) and have a few extra lugs for mud and such. Whats your opinion on the front stockers ?
 

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front stockers....sucks IMO......lol.....Well tell Jimbo Hi for me the next time you see him, he was going to come duning with me this year until he had to re-do that head work on his Dale earlier in the year.....He was pretty impressed with your Quad from what he told me.For around here,our track conditions are truly best with a turf tamer for the flattrack,but I do need to run a new fronts tire.The Razrs are just too beefy for whatI rde and too much tire for me .So PAul do you like the Holeshots for front tires? And what about the fast trekkers for the fronts?I wouldnt consider them in the rears, Im selling my stock rear rims and tires and my full set off my 400ex as well.Im not impressed with them one bit ,its a great tire, just wrong kind for what I need for around here is all........
 

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What exactly is your track conditions ? Is it mostly smooth slippery soil or sandy with rocks or ???? If the razrs are too beefy you will definitely not like the holeshots. I did like the holeshot fronts and thought they worked well. I have never tried the fast trekkers on the front so I can't say how those work.

Yes, Jim did have some engine problems earlier this year. He missed a couple of races. Too bad he could not make it to go duning. Sounds like he missed out on some fun riding.

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Paul, the track I will run on it a flat track a slippery hard pack,almost blue groove and by the end of the season . It will def be blue.Its very desert here,talcom powder dirt then hard rough stuff under neath alot of rock which is why we bought the Rarz 6 ply,tired of blowing side wall out all the time...BUT.....on this type of dirt the razrs do not to all that greatand I dont like the size . Most of the track racers who MX here dont like them either . I guess Im asking too many dif tire qestions at once here..lol..For MX, which FRONT and REAR set up would be good for all season and MX use? Whats your thought on the new tire they have out on the new YZ?
 

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As a matter of fact, I raced that tire last weekend in 2 races. It came directly off of a new YFZ. Here's the honest scoop. This guy was getting too much traction in soft sandy type soil. He would wheelie in the lower gears all the time without trying to. I used them on a honda 400ex (because my frame broke in half) and they worked really well for me. Probably because the 400ex is underpowered. The seem to ride similar to stock honda 250r tires. I doubt you would like them simply because they hook up too much.

For all season and mx use I would go with the holeshots. If you want more more hookup/traction go with holesthot MX as they are softer. If you want more durability / harder tire / not so sticky go with the holeshot xc.

If you want really hard tires with very little side wall get the fast trekkers in 18x11x10. You'll slide all over the place . .
 

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Thats what I had a feeling you would say....LOL........Good Lord, frame broke in half!!!!!!!!!!!!! :O hahah my ole man cased a 95 ft step up.got lucky though...... not a bend one thank goodness.. Ive been eyeballin those Holeshots XC....Thanks for all the replies!!.....:) Tina
 

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You can get hubs from Rath with honda bolt pattern.Then you can put 18x10x8 holeshots mxr they work good for the track.I have them on my Pred they work well,have to check air pressure all the time,lose air when jumping and landing.
 

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HPD also sells the mod hubs, they're made by TEAM industries, the same place that made our tough Predator axles.
 

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I have someone who will sell me his Hubs for 100.00 for both..I cant remeber how much Raths were to by from him...Anyone got a price?MODQUAD, how about HPD's price?
 

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I race MX and need to get my quad lower....I have heard 18x10" are rough riding. What air pressures have you guys used and suspension settings? I have had my rear shock revalved with a little lighter low speed damping and a more progressive stack to ressist bottoming. Seems to be smoother with less axle hoop and less bottoming on big jumps. I worry that little tires will put it back a notch or two. Of course I can't corner as fast cause I'm too tall so I think I will try it. Let me know your thoughts.
 

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I put about 5 pounds of air in my holeshots,Depends where you are riding.You might also have to experiment alittle.Also you will change your gearing,you will get more low end,so you might have to change sprocket.I run 14F,38R tooth.I think I am going to try 13F,to get even more low end.The set up now is about right for my riding.But I have to try something differant.Cant help it.Good luck
 
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